| How
important is the interior in the
process of selling an airplane?
Just how important is the
interior in the process of
buying or selling an aircraft.
Well according to my customers,
"extremely important". Imagine
having an airplane that the
records for maintenance are
impeccable. The radio package
includes the latest technology,
and the exterior paint is
incredible, but………the interior
is dated, and worn out. How
difficult is it to sell that
aircraft or lease it to
customers. Also, if you were the
buyer, would you be able to look
past the obvious interior
problems and purchase the
aircraft based on all of the
other attributes. Of course the
other qualities are important
but don't under estimate the
importance of the obvious. You
have to sit and look at the
interior for a few hours every
time you fly. Fortunately, in
most cases, interior problems
are the easiest to solve.
Compared to the cost of engines
or radios the interior can be
relatively inexpensive and make
a profound difference in the
marketability and appearance of
an aircraft.
Taken from an article by
Jimmy Jones for Cabin Class
Magazine in 2005
What is the best
material to use in my plane?
I am seeing leather
everywhere. Almost all aircraft
and automobile interiors are
leather. Leather has become very
popular in the furniture
industry also. Recently, I have
become aware that this is not
just a trend that will pass
quickly. In the past, many of
our interiors would have had all
fabric seats with leather only
in critical wear areas such as
arm rests. Now about 99 % of our
interiors are leather.
Therefore, the question that
comes to mind is, why the shift
to leather and why has it lasted
so long now? This trend had been
going on for at least a decade
now. Leather used to be a
material that was used only on
high-end furniture, luxury
automobiles, and larger
aircraft. Now you can get
leather at almost any level,
from jets to economy cars and so
on, so much so that it is the
norm, not the exception anymore.
We even did a leather interior
in a Cessna 150 recently.
Combined with a matching vinyl,
leather can be affordable even
for the smaller aircraft.
Leather is not just a fashion
statement that comes and goes
overnight. There are various
reasons for the stability of
this trend, and most of those
reasons are based on sound
principles of interior design.
In other words, though leather
is a trend, it is by no means a
fad. I think leather is here to
stay and this is why:
- Price:
Leather is probably the only
thing on the planet that has
actually remained the same
price for the last ten
years. While all other
materials have sky rocketed,
leather has just simply
remained constant. In 1995,
I was paying about the same
price for a lesser quality
leather that I am now for
the better quality leather.
- Quality:
Leather is an improved
product. There has been a
revolution in the leather
production industry. More
automation and more
efficient ways of bringing
it to the market have
improved the quality.
Leather looks and feels
better than ever.
- Competition:
There are more suppliers
than ever. More suppliers
help keep the prices
competitive and drive the
development of new and
different products, such as
split hides, altered hides
and distressed hides. All of
them are trying to establish
their niche in the market.
The global economy has
fostered the emergence of
competition as foreign
leather companies try to
edge their way into the
American market.
- Availability:
More suppliers are keeping
greater supplies of leather
that has already been
treated for FARs in their
inventories. This allows for
the product to be shipped
quicker, satisfying the time
restraints that aircraft
refurbishment centers deal
with.
- More Cows:
I don’t know if there are
actually more cows, but the
cows that are slaughtered
now are not just slaughtered
for beef. Every part of the
cow has become marketable.
It is possible to emboss a
grain to hide scars, making
hides marketable that
otherwise would not be. The
process of splitting a hide
or altering the grain
increases the yield of the
product.
- Fire Codes:
Leather is inherently fire
retardant.
- Aroma:
Leather has a natural
fragrance that is pleasant
and creates a smell that
says: Fresh & New!
However, the real reason that I
think leather is here to stay is
because it possesses all of the
qualities that you want in a
material. Some of those
qualities have always been
there, but now at a better
price. That spells VALUE! Here
are some of those qualities:
- The LOOK!
What I call the “WOW!
Factor”.
- Prestige:
Leather sells; people want
it for the status symbol.
- It is durable:
It can be repaired or dyed.
It is easy to match if a
piece needs to be replaced a
few years down the road. It
should hold up twice as long
as fabric.
- Practical:
Leather is easier to keep
clean than fabric.
- Temperature
Forgiving: Leather
adjusts to your body
temperature quickly. Though
it may be cool or hot when
you first sit on it, it
adjusts to provide the
breathable effect that only
natural materials can
provide.
- Good quality
leather has a good soft
feel: What I call
the OOH! AAH! Factor.
Also, now that leather is the
norm, you have to consider what
will happen to the resale value
of your aircraft if you don’t do
leather. All things considered,
leather is one of the best
values in today’s market. So,
for your next interior when you
think value, think leather.
How can I make my
seats more comfortable?
This is a very common
question. This is also the issue
that probably drives a person to
have their interior refurbished
more so than any other. The
answer to this question varies,
because the shape and structure
of the human body varies, but
the size of your aircraft seat
remains the same. So the real
dilemma is how to make the seat
comfortable for you without
making it not so for the others.
I am once again reminded of my
philosophy of this business.
First, define the objective,
then devise a plan to solve the
problem, and finally don’t lose
sight of the objective. Usually
I would say be very cautious
about modifying the original
design of anything that a team
of highly skilled engineers
spent years designing before
bringing it to the market. That
may be so if we were talking
about wing or propeller, but we
are talking about a seat and the
area being modified is usually
just foam, leather and fabric.
Although the structural
integrity of the seat cannot and
should not be compromised the
upholstery is usually cosmetic
work. I have found that, in the
old days most aircraft
manufacturers seemingly designed
the aircraft first, then crammed
the seats into a limited defined
space, and usually one or two
more seats than the space
allowed. Then, in order to
squeeze them in, the thickness
of foam and the size of the seat
were reduced with the comfort
being compromised. At least in
modern aircraft the term
ergonomics applies. Now the
comfort of the seat and its
relation to the positioning of
all the controls are part of the
designing process from day one.
In other words, the seat and
position of the human body is
determined first and then an
aircraft is designed around it.
Therefore some of the newer
aircraft are more comfortable,
not just because they are new
but because of the design.
However, all of them still have
the same problem. What size body
do we build this seat to fit? I
am 6 feet 2 inches tall and I
have found that, whether it be a
commercial airliner, a mid-sized
jet, or a single engine light
aircraft, my body is just to big
to be completely comfortable. I
always seem to need just another
inch of legroom or headroom. And
it’s not just the height. I
weigh 220 pounds but what if I
weighed 280 pounds, then the
problem is magnified. How nice
it would it be to have a little
more padding under the rump?
Fortunately, new technology
has given us more options with
memory foam, temper foam and
high-density foams. But the
bottom line is, you have to
custom design the foam to fit
the body of the person that is
going to be sitting in the seat
to get the most comfort. That is
more of a challenge when the
person is not the average size
of say, 5 feet, 9 inches and
about 170 pounds. My advise is
when you get your seats
reupholstered, let the shop
build up the foam for your size,
but before they do all the
leather work and upholster the
seat visit the shop and sit in
it, then you can determine if it
needs further modification
before it is completely
upholstered. With the crew seats
you may want to incorporate
temper foam and have it designed
more specifically for you. For
cabin seats I would usually
recommend staying with standard
foam and keeping things more
suitable for varied sizes of
people. All things considered I
believe the comfort problem can
be solved and for most of us, it
is easier to change the shape of
the aircraft seat than the seat
attached to our body. However,
for some of us it may require
both.
Written by Jimmy Jones for
Cabin Class Magazine,
Vol. 3, Issue 10, 2005
I want really good
leather, are there different
qualities to leather?
Most people just think
leather is leather, and as long
as it is leather you can’t go
wrong. Well, that is about as
true as saying “all wines are
the same”, maybe to the person
who has never tasted wine. The
characteristics of leather vary
as much as those of wine. We all
know that grapes are the source
of wine. The taste and bouquet
of a wine is affected by the
kind of grapes, the size of the
grapes, and especially its place
of origin.
However this is not about
choosing a great wine, and if it
were I would not be the expert
to provide advice on that
subject. That being said, I do
know my chaps and I can help you
in selecting the perfect leather
for your aircraft. Of course
leather does not come on a roll;
it comes by the hide, which is
the skin of a cow. I am certain
that you are determined to have
the finest leather in your
plane, but you might say the cow
is truly committed. As it is
with grapes, there are many
varieties of cattle in various
sizes and weights, and yes the
size of a cow can affect the
quality of the leather. The
larger a cow, the thicker the
hide, the older the cow, the
tougher the hide and there may
even be more scars to deal with.
Smaller cows are just the
opposite. They have softer,
thinner hides, and the younger
ones tend to have fewer scars.
Also, just as it can be with
wine, even the country of origin
can affect the quality of the
leather. In some countries there
is no need for barbed wire and
cows are raised for more
purposes than just to satisfy
the beef industry. In other
words, if leather is equally
important as beef then the cow
may be brought to market at a
younger age. In the U.S. our
cattle industry is primarily
beef, where in Italy it would be
leather. Being competitive in a
global economy is forcing the
U.S. to find more purposes for
the cow than simply raising the
biggest, thickest cow possible
to slaughter for beef. No longer
can we just raise cows for the
beef and consider the hide as a
spin-off industry. The demand
for a quality hide is too great.
Now, not only must we
consider the thickness and
toughness of a hide when
choosing the leather for our
seats, but we must determine the
grain and texture. There are
natural grain leathers and
altered grains. The natural
grain is unaltered of course,
including scars and
imperfections such as brand
marks or barbed wire scars. Many
people prefer the natural grain
because to them leather isn’t
leather without imperfections.
Then some people like the
altered grains. An artificial
grain is literally pressed or
embossed into the leather, thus
evening up the texture and grain
in the process. The result of
this process is a reduction in
the amount of imperfections.
The dying process is also
important. The dying processes
fall into two families, surface
dyed and vat dyed. Surface dyed
is a process where the dye is
sprayed on the outside. Vat dyed
is a process where the dye soaks
through and penetrates the hide.
In the industry the term “the
colors goes all the way through”
is commonly used for vat dyed
leather. This is important
because scratches and abrasion
won’t show up as much as with
surface dyed. Also the
likelihood of cracking or
peeling is virtually eliminated
by having the color permeated
into the leather as apposed to
sitting on the surface.
There are other methods of
treatment during the tanning
process from tumbling to
buffing, sealing and distressing
that give leather various
appearances and textures. Now
that you are thoroughly
confused, the real question
which leather is perfect for
you? To answer that you may have
to ask your self some other
questions. What is important to
you for the kind of use or abuse
that your aircraft will endure?
Are you rough on the interior or
do you pamper it? Well you get
the idea. If you want softness,
then think more expensive. If
you want tough, then you will
have to settle for a little less
softness. Calf hides and split
hides just don’t provide the
ruggedness of a full hide, and
though they are very supple, you
have a trade off in durability.
I recommend an average size
cow hide, about 45 sq. ft, with
a slightly altered grain. The
leather will have a moderate
price, but be fairly soft, yet
still have a toughness about it.
And of course it must be vat
dyed (colored all the way
through). You get the best of
all the qualities of the leather
which spells value. In comparing
leather, I like to do what I
call the “Goldie Locks Test” Oh
that’s to hard, Oh that’s too
soft, Oh that’s just right. Now
that you have been enlightened
just compare and trust your
instincts. It is really just
common sense.
Taken from an article written
by Jimmy Jones for Cabin
Class Magazine, Vol. 4
Issue 1, 2006
Should I do a Partial
Interior or Full?
I have been in this business
for years, and I still have a
hard time with this question.
You have an aircraft that is in
good condition, but for various
reasons you want to have some
interior work done. Your
interior may just be a little
dated, whether a spouse or an
associate pointed it out or you
simply noticed for yourself, it
just seems to be time to bring
it up to speed with the current
trends. The interior may be
lacking in just one area, or
need help in many areas. The
most common thing to wear out
first in an interior is the
carpet. Regardless of its
original color, it eventually
becomes the color of the hangar
floor or the asphalt ramp, at
least in the high traffic areas.
Sometimes carpet or fabric will
fade. Even if it has no worn
spots, it has turned to a putrid
color of greenish-brown similar
to something only a baby can
create. A customer might say,
“Let’s just do what is really
necessary”. This is called a
partial interior, not all new,
or not perfect. I will admit I
have done a few over the years;
some have even turned out
surprising well. On the other
hand, I have had a few turn into
horrible experiences that seem
to never end, making me wonder
“What was I thinking?” As a
matter of fact, most of the
mistakes I have made in this
business occur when I am trying
too hard to save a customer some
money.
This reminds me of the story
where the man has a flat tire
and makes the statement, “Why do
I need a tire? It’s only flat on
the bottom.” Therefore, I have
decided to provide you with a
translation chart that may come
in handy when you are attempting
a partial interior, just so you
will know how the interior shop
will interpret your request:
- It only needs a little
work………….. ( It only needs a
little work on every thing)
- The seats look
good…………………( Everything else
looks bad)
- It might be
faded…………………….( Completely
new and unidentified color)
- Needs some TLC…………………….(
Total Loss Classification)
- Has a slight
odor……………………..(Reeks, and
you do too from sitting in
it)
- It’s a
fixer-upper……………………..(Its a
worner-outer)
- I’m just going to sell
it……………….( I just want to
dump it)
- I’m just going to sell
it……………….(Spend less on it
than necessary)
- Just tidy it up for
resale………………( I want the
interior shop to lose money
so I can make some)
- Just match the material
as close as you can…………(Yea,
right, we can still get
hounds tooth fabric)
- I just upgraded my
avionics…………………………(No money
left for interior)
- I don’t need a complete
interior……………………..( Miser)
- Just do what we talked
about and no more………….(I
have selective memory)
- I’ve got too much
invested in it now…… (Will
you give me a good deal to
make up for my stupidity?)
- Can we use artificial
leather to save some
money?……..( Let‘s fake it
and say we didn’t)
I think you probably have the
picture by now. I prefer to do
full interiors because it is
really difficult to determine
the best stopping point for a
partial interior. Here are some
rules that usually apply:
- It always cost more than
you think it will.
- It always needs more
work than the surface shows.
- Matching the old
materials is nearly
impossible, especially with
fabric.
- You will probably say I
wish I had done the whole
interior.
- Your interior shop will
say “I told you so, here is
your invoice.”
If you must do a partial
interior, remember to be
realistic. The only way you are
going to get an interior that
looks totally fresh and new is
to do the whole enchilada. As
the interior designer, doing the
whole interior gives me a clean
palette to start with so that I
have more control over the
finished product. However, on
many occasions I really have
turned a caterpillar in to a
butterfly thus creating a
beautiful interior from the
remnants of an old dated
interior, all for a fraction of
the cost of a complete interior.
I am also not a fool; I want
every opportunity to bid for
interior services, even the
partial stuff. I hope you
realize that for the sake of
humor I am being a little tongue
and cheek about partial
interiors here. There actually
are some aircraft very suitable
for a partial upgrade. So the
real question is how do we
determine the all important
stopping point? First you need
to take a real close look at the
items that you would consider
not changing. Clean them really
well. Picture in your mind what
they will look like side by side
with a newly upholstered item.
For example, it is very common
do what is called a window line
interior. That means every thing
from the windows down is redone
except the headliner. Then you
need to decide if the color of
headliner will fit in with your
new objective. Also, is the type
of material suitable in texture
and content? If it meets these
criteria without forcing you to
compromise your expectations
then go for it. If you can
achieve with a partial interior
a result that looks as though
you did a full interior then you
will have hit a home run. Be
careful though, it can be
difficult even for the
professional, to tell how long
the preserved interior items are
going to last. Plastic pieces
can become brittle and seams can
begin to deteriorate over time
giving very little warning
before they break. Also here’s a
tip, I have had very little
success removing old musty
smells without doing a complete
interior. So in essence, you
would consider the color,
condition, smell, age, and
integrity of the interior item
that you want to keep and apply
the aforementioned scrutiny to
each of those components when
determining the best stopping
point for your partial interior.
There are also some detail
procedures and techniques such
as leather repair, dyeing, and
conditioning that may help the
parts being saved. Discuss these
procedures with your interior
specialist. It is critical that
the old pieces measure up to the
quality of the new. Sometimes
they can appear to look good
until they are compared to a
newly upholstered item. Don’t
try to put a square peg in a
round hole. Remember, wanting
something to be true can be very
convincing to your psyche. The
finished product is an extension
of your personality. Be sure it
is presenting the right message.
Also remember interiors have
to be maintained just like the
power plants. Normal maintenance
may include repairs such as
recovering an arm rest or
repairing a torn panel. A
partial interior is a little
more than normal maintenance. It
can change the whole appearance
of the interior. Combined with
re-striping the exterior, it can
have a dramatic effect on the
overall appearance of an
aircraft. Manufacturers change
the trends intentionally to make
your aircraft look old and out
of date about every five years.
This is no accident. They want
you to want a new aircraft.
Therefore it would make sense to
upgrade your interior enough to
satisfy the new trends as much
as possible. That will protect
the value of your aircraft by
making it more marketable. With
that in mind it becomes
essential to pay attention to
your interior. So I guess the
answer to the question “Partial
or Full” is a resounding, “Yes!
Do something, don’t just let it
deteriorate”. It can also be fun
if you follow these guidelines.
Written by Jimmy Jones for
Cabin Class Magazine,
Vol. 3 Issue 11, 2005
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